No! The Cruiserlift System was designed and tested for use on most
Class "A" Diesel Pusher, and a limited number of Class "A" Gas Motor
Coaches.
Most diesel pushers are equipped with a single continuous chassis frame
that extends from the front of the coach all the way to the rear. These chassis frames
are generally Semi Truck grade, and will handle the weight of the Cruiserlift System as
well as up to a 1000 pound motorcycle. The exception to that rule is if the original chassis
does not go the length of the coach, and a smaller extension was welded onto the main frame chassis over
the last few feet of the coach. Under these circumstances the extension may not hold the weight of the system
and motorcycle. Further investigation would be needed.
Some Class "A" Gas Motor coaches have the original frame from front to back.
If this is the case, and the GAWR (Gross Axle Weight Rating) on the rear axle will allow
for the added weight, chances are that the system may be mounted. Some coaches may need
rear air bags installed. As with extensions on the diesel pushers, this rule also applies to the gas vehicles. Extensions
are more prevalent in gas motor coaches than diesel. Usually, the longer the gas coach,
the more likely it is that it may have extensions. The majority of these extensions will
not withstand the weight of the system and bike. Under some circumstances, short extensions
on coaches may be reinforced for added support and the Cruiserlift System may be used as long as the added
reinforcement maintains the strength of the main chassis frame.
Generally, Class-C motor homes do not have the frame work, carrying capacity, or rear axle
weight rating (GAWR) to handle a motorcycle lift system. Class-C coaches with lifts run
the risk of overloading the rear axles as well as the tires, thus creating a warranty issue
if these components were to fail. Have people installed our system onto Class-C coaches without
our knowledge? Yes! We have only heard about them, but have never heard from these individuals. The old saying of
"No news is Good news" is not always true.
If there is a question as to compatibility, the linked Added Weight Distribution Form will help you calculate the additional weight that will be added to the rear
of your coach. If you have a bike that weighs 850 pounds, and the Cruiserlift System
weighs 460 pounds that gives you a total weight of 1310 pounds. Understand, when calculating
the added weight to the rear axle of a coach, the final downloaded weight may be much higher
than just the combined weight of the system and bike.
Example: A 40 foot coach has a rear axle to existing receiver distance
(#1) of 130 inches, a wheelbase (#2) of 270 inches, and a bike weight (#3) of 850 pounds.
After completing the added weight formula, this coach will have an added weight to the
rear axle of 2052 pounds.
SOLUTION: Click on the Swivel Wheel link to obtain a solution for
Class-A motor coaches that the Cruiserlift System is not an option, as well as all Class-C
and Class-B coaches.
Can I mount the Cruiserlift System to my Travel Trailer or Fifth Wheel Trailer?
No! Travel Trailers and Fifth Wheel Trailer frames
were not designed for the direct downward weights associated with the system and bike to
be added to the rear of the trailer. Other manufacturers have installed and continue to
install these types of lifts onto trailer frames. The stories that are relayed to us is that
the installation of the lift systems will do two things: 1. The 1000+ pounds of weight pushing directly downward
on the rear of the trailer frame bends the trailer frame. One client has such a system
and the rear frame bent so that the slide out will no longer function. We have talked to
numerous customers with frame problems associated with a motorcycle lifts being installed.
2. When adding that 1000+ pounds to the rear of the frame, it removes the weight from the front king pin
so that the trailer does not track or handle correctly. Below is an email received from one of many customers
that had a lift system installed onto their fifth wheel trailer.
hi
i am needing more info on your swivel wheel trailer .can i legally pull it behind my 5th
wheel trailer with out any problems, such as fishtailing and problems backing? i had overbiltlifts install their lift on my new 5th wheel with the promise of no problems.boy
was that a big mistake.the fishtailing is so bad that it is scary. so i need to find a
better safer way of taking our harley along with us.
There
is a big difference between pulling a boat or small cargo trailer behind a fifth
wheel trailer with a 350 pound tongue weight, than by adding 1300 to 1400 pounds of direct downward
force, bouncing at the rear of the trailer.
SOLUTION: Click on the SwivelWheel link to obtain a solution for Fifth Wheel Travel Trailers.
Can I mount the Cruiserlift System to my Pick-Up?
No!
The system was not designed for Pick-Up's. We are looking into alternatives for the
Pick-Up Line.
SOLUTION: Click on the SwivelWheel or Cruiser Ramp link to obtain a solution for pick-ups.
Can I use my existing receiver hitch with the Cruiserlift System?
No!
The existing receiver hitch on the motor coach is removed if possible. There is a 3-Receiver
mount that is installed onto the coach frame. All of the Cruiserlift components install
onto this receiver assembly. When the Cruiserlift system is removed from the coach, the
center receiver is now the Class 4 receiver.
Can I pull my boat or cargo trailer with the the Cruiserlift System installed?
No! The system was designed for a flat tow vehicle
capacity of 6000 pounds. With the Extended Tow Bar, there is a maximum tongue weight of
75 pounds.
Can I tow my boat or other trailer with my motor coach with the Cruiserlift System removed?
Yes! The Center receiver on the installed three
receiver mount is rated for Class 4 towing devices.
Can I tow my car with the Cruiserlift System installed?
Yes!
The system allows for a flat tow of 6000 pounds which will accommodate most tow vehicles
being utilized to date. Remember, the GVWR weight rating on the door is with full fuel,
cargo and passangers. Your towing weight will be much less than the GVWR.
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Where can I find a dealer for the Cruiserlift System in my area?
Contact
us here at Fast Master Products, Inc. and we will assist you in getting the Cruiserlift
System. Any quality certified welding shop or hitch fabricator can do the install. The
best choice is to check with your coach dealer and ask who they recommend for hitch service
on your coach. If you wish, we can help in the qualifying.
Tel:
281-391-6750
Fax: 281-391-6760
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Where is the activation switch for the winch mounted for the Cruiserlift System?
The system includes a waterproof switch that may
be placed in any desired location . There is enough wire to accommodate most location options.
One of the most popular locations is inside the rear storage compartment on the coach.
This way, when the compartment is locked, the switch is not available for use.
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Why doesn't the Cruiserlift System carry two road bikes?
Motor Coach frames will not withstand the weight associated with two
full size motorcycles. Generally, this would be about 1800 to 2000 pounds. With that much
weight and leverage out the back of the coach, frames would bend.
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Why is the Cruiserlift System 40" from the ground while in the raised position?
The 40 inches was designed into the system to allow
for the tow vehicle to be as close to the coach as possible. At this height, the system
will not bottom out and drag like other 27" high systems when trying to maneuver over
steep transitions in streets and drive ways. Another benefit is being high enough to keep
most of the road grime and road debris from the bike. The below top photo shows a competitive lift system at approx.
27" of ground clearance. The below bottom photo shows the Cruiserlift system
at 40" of ground clearance. Both photos shown on an American Eagle Coach.
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Why did you use an electric cable winch instead of hydraulics with the Cruiserlift System?
Hydraulics are strong and usually quiet. The drawback
is when there is a failure with the components. Finding hydraulic components in a small
town is shaky at best. You must find a spot to mount the hydraulic reservoir and pump.
When removing the lift, the connections to the hydraulic lines must be disconnected. If
there were a failure with the electric cable winch, these winches are readily available. If the exact winch were not available,
another could be substituted in the interim or we could overnight another to your location.
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Who is responsible for the installation of the Cruiserlift Receiver mount to the Motor Coach?
We assist the customer in locating a hitch fabrication
shop or certified welding shop close to the customer for the receiver install. You can
contact the larger motor coach dealers in your area and find out who they use for hitch
service on their coaches or trailers.
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Who would I contact if I have questions about my Cruiserlift System?
You can contact Fast Master Products between 8:00am
and 5:00pm CST and talk to someone directly without reaching a voice mail or answering
service. You may also fax or email us.
Tel:
281-391-6750
Fax: 281-391-6760
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What does the dampening shock do?
The dampening system reduces the amount of road
shock delivered to the motorcycle tray while driving over rough roads. The Shock is attached
to the system with quick release clevis pins and safety clips for fast removal.
Note: The dampening shock was replaced by a turnbuckle assembly on 05/01/05.
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What is the weight of the Cruiserlift System?
The weight of the complete system
including the 3-receiver weldment is 450 pounds. There is a trade off when the original receiver
is removed from the coach. the actual added weight is around 380 pounds.
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What is the tow capacity of the Cruiserlift system.
The Cruiserlift system has a flat
tow capacity of 6000 pounds. As stated earlier, the GVWR stamped on the inside
of the vehicle door is with full fuel, cargo and passangers. Your actual towing weight of the vehicle will be much
less.
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From what location on the Cruiserlift system is the tow vehicle pulling from?
The tow vehicle always
pulls from the center receiver hitch, never from the motorcycle tray, as some competitive
systems do. When competitive systems attach their tow bars in any fashion to the motor cycle tray frame, they are continuously
trying to pull the motorcycle tray to the ground. This puts severe stress on the hitch
pins and pivot joints holding the system together.
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What is the motorcycle weight limit with the Cruiserlift System?
The system is rated and tested to carry a 1000
Pound motorcycle. Others are rated from 800-1000 pounds.
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What additional costs are involved with the Cruiserlift System?
The only additional cost involved in the system is the installation charge
of the 3-receiver weldment to the coach. This varies from coach to coach. Competition will
tell you that additional material is needed in order to install the Cruiserlift system.
It does not take additional material. Others may say that they do not have additional charges,
but the fact is, in order to offer all of the features that the Cruiserlift system has, you must order an electric
winch (additional charge), tow bar extension (additional charge), kickstand tray (additional
charge), etc, etc. The only options available for the Cruiserlift system are the Mist
Shield that installs under the bike tray, Bike Pro Locking Wheel Chock, and Tow Bar Extension.
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What other RV related vehicles will the
Cruiserlift System transport?
The
system will also handle Two Dirt Bikes or Two Scooters. The system was not designed to
carry a golf cart. The weights associated with a golf cart are from 675 pounds for a gas
cart to 1005 pounds for an electric cart. Even though the gas cart is within the weight limits and the electric cart
is only 5 pounds over, you have to consider the leverage factor farther to the rear. The carts
are about 4 feet wide and that weight stretched backward has issues. We have had people
that have had competitive systems for their golf cart have bending issues with the systems
components after hitting a major road transition while driving. We have decided to stay out of that
market.
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What is the warranty of the Cruiserlift System?
One year from the date of purchase.
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What type of finish is on the Cruiserlift System?
Baked on semi-gloss black Powder Coat
Finish.
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What is the weight capacity of your electric cable winch?
The winch supplied with the Cruiser
System is a Superwinch T2000 with a capacity of 2000 Pounds. With the double pulley
arrangement included with the system, this is boosted to 6000 pounds. This is more than enough power to drive the
system.
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How long does it take to install
or dismantle the Cruiserlift System from my Motor Coach?
Once the system
has been installed and dismantled once, it usually takes about 10 to 15 minutes, depending on the individuals capabilities.
Competition will tell you that it only takes 3 minutes to remove their system, and that
the 10-15 minutes that it takes to remove the Cruiserlift system equals 1/2 hour, and that
that may disrupt your whole day....you try to figure that one out!
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How many people does it take to install the Cruiserlift system?
Generally, it takes only one individual to assemble or disassemble the
system.
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How many tie down points does the Cruiserlift System have?
The Cruiserlift System has 10 tie
down points. There are two fixed front mounts, two points on the kickstand tray, four to the
back, and two removable rear tie down points.
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Is the Cruiserlift System welded or bolted to the frame?
The receiver assembly is welded to
the coach frames. There is no bolting to the frames.
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Are there lights on the Cruiserlift System?
The system comes standard with a light package
that is wired for your coach. This gives added lighting security with running lights, turn
signals, and brake lights. These lights are already installed onto the system. You do not have to bolt them on after
the fact. There is also a corresponding tow vehicle connection that is wired.
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If I sell or trade my motor coach, and purchase another, can I have my Cruiserlift system installed
onto the new motor coach?
Yes! If the new coach meets the system
requirements, all that will be needed is to have another three receiver system installed under
the new coach. Your existing Cruiserlift system will plug into the new receivers.
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Will the Cruiserlift system disrupt the air flow from the rear radiator and cause my coach to overheat?
No! We have had a system on the rear of our coach for over two years without any
air flow problems. The majority of the system we have sold have been installed onto rear
radiator coaches, and we have never had a problem relayed to us.
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